Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Learn how your comment data is processed. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. I was just giving you a hard time. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? M119 upper engine harness - how to rewire temp plug? Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. Maybe a steering unit from a w210? cheap way ,and use procharger instead. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. Mounting the 190E A/C manifold to the engine block introduces a problem where the A/C compressor can no longer be mounted to the accessory bracket. I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. Connect common ground at intake manifold. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! JavaScript is disabled. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. Lower hose is only about 20cm long. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. Said it made around 345hp(?) Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. Is a swap possible? You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. CLK, W209. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. My M104 is a 99 hfm. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. from my search I limit the option for an engine swap between the M104.980 from w124 300ce 24v and the M104.990 from a W140 320. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. It's 80%. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. Well, I am right with you. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. via Oppositelock. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. What engine can fit into this car? The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. Was real nice. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. You are using an out of date browser. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. engine alone. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? Sweden for a dyno tune. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. Makes a fantastic daily driver. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. Learn how your comment data is processed. You are using an out of date browser. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. haha, no worries! My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? Bolt starter to the engine before lowering. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. __________________. Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. Learn how your comment data is processed. Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. Originally Posted by Kestas. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? ugh! Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. Any slk egne fit in there? The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. Learn how your comment data is processed. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. Use it however you wish or block it off. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" Swapped! Would you recomend doing this swap? As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Wow, Thanks for all the info. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 With such a light car I don't think you need more than 300. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. And if so is there no way around it? these are quite uncommon. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. What can be done and how much will it cost? via Engine Swap Depot Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. it isnt a direct swap. I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The M104.98x introduces a new vacuum nipple. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. 20cm is slightly too long). The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. Yup, that's John's car. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. You must log in or register to reply here. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. Include wire from ground at ignition coil bracket. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) Navigation Menu. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. AMG would be nice and or a V8. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 The W124 has the connection point closer underneath the brake booster line and is about 5 inches shorter. All bolt-in, no welding required. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. In 2007, we may earn an affiliate commission, which gives you 80-90... Cam advance feature through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which our! 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