It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. I'll tell you a secretyou can eliminate your heating bills! My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. For the same heat output, electrical heaters are way more expensive than heating with a fuel like natural gas. The same amount of air goes through. This sure seems to be a scam. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. FUVM. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). Most of these testimonials are not of much use. Television ads do not tell you shipping is charged if you have problems and need to send them back. What a bunch of scam artists. I spent aA LOT of time researching!! I often think these celebrities who endorse products do not really check completely into them. Best of luck. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. My house has two geothermal units in it, one went out the week of Christmas and I couldn't get anyone in to work on it. Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. Services may be provided by Western Union Financial Services, Inc. NMLS# 906983 and/or Western Union International Services, LLC NMLS# 906985, which are licensed as Money Transmitters by the New York State Department of Financial Services. However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. Felt bad for the guy. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. The point has been made of how some feel about it. Complain all you want the heater works well. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. Coincidentally, Burkett is the father of St. Aquinas' star quarterback Bobby (Logan Huffman) and his struggle to assert his copyright against his conniving space heater magnate boss (Richard . If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. I am ashamed that, as a scientist I didn't think through the physics of Edenpure's claims. Edin Pure used to give you 2 models (large and small).Sam's Club usually sells Quartz heaters at a competitive price. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. Another thing that I doubt some of you would do to save $$$ on your electricity is to get used to the early morning cooler temps by wearing sweats. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. for 1+3, enter 4. Now she is crying the blues because she could have applied the outrageous price of the heaters and their exhorbitant use of electricity, to her regular heat bill. A company of integrity that believes all the implications of their own commercial to be true would have no problem warranteeing for one year and paying return costs for the "so few that would come back. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. I cannot comment about the energy saving from the Edenpure Gen 4 as it quit working about 2+ months after it was purchased on EBay from Bass Pro Outlets. Is it reliable. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. Yes but they are ugly units and they both worked. Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! Today's top 108 Human Resources jobs in Roubaix, Hauts-de-France, France. My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. Hogwash. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75. Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. Why oil-filled? It was almost exactly a year ago when I first saw the EdenPure heater advertised and I warned readers to take caution when believing some of the claims. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. Suarez Manufacturing Industries / Pinnacle Systems, did no component life testing at all during the Edenpure US-1000 / Gen4 product development. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! Lowering your home's thermostat (s) and using your main heating system less in tandem with a space heatercalled zone heating will cut your utility bill. When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. are surprised when they experience comfortable, cost-efficiently operating systems in other manufactured homes. All they will pay is the premiums paid in. It seems to have been expurgated from their current advertising. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) My personal choice - an oil-filled radiator, with the price tag of around $40 to $60. If it heats, cools, moves air or water, we do it. Question: What is a radiant barrier? The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. That's right. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. Buyer beware. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). A portable electric heater can keep small rooms warmer without heating the remainder of the home to a higher temperature. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly. You should use your own judgement and take some care to buy the right product for you. If 1500W goes in, 5118 BTU comes out. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. Square feet is the area of floor space, cubic feet is the amount of air in a room. Look at your furnace's btu rating. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Nice flat spot for debris. If the ceiling were 12', then the amount of air, 1200 cubic feet, would need heating. E.g. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. *** So the smaller heater will produce heat but others that I have tried burn the air. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. Here's examples of how those would work: 1) Say your furnace has a vent that blows all of the warm air straight outside every time the furnace kicks on giving no warmth to the house. I know I would not. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. And it is VERY safe. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. As for bob vila. There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. Would i buy this. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. Common sense. Well it depends on what version you get. Love my EdenPURE heater! That's common sense. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. EdenPURE principles are based on an initiative to market the safest and highest quality healthy-home products without compromising affordability to the average consumer. Why do you think they would do that? Her hair dryer moves much more air because of its use it moves hot air faster that doesnt mean its producing less heat over all. Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. Nothing has changed. 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. I am trying to heat about a 400 SQ foot area. [1] I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. A FEW YEARS AGO A CITY ELECTRIC INSPECTER TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS. . I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. I wonder how much Edenpure payed Bob Vila to get on television and tell all these lies about the Gen 4 heaters? My electric bill actually increased. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. Of course heat rises, but are any of you 8 feet tall to feel that it may be warmer at the ceiling?? I called customer service and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and they sent me another one. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. That is the real savings. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. Even a child knows that hot air rises. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. In some situations yes but in some no. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. Space heaters save money because instead of heating your whole home, you just heat a small space. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. FACT: Nonsense. Sweeney, William Mapother, Richard Portnow, Logan Huffman. The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. Design in an electric heater is everything. Heat Pumps are the most cost saving product other than using a fireplace.The japanese use several heatpumps to heat their homes they use one system for living room another for bedrooms this helps lower energy bills. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. A btu IS a btu, weather you use oil, wood, propane, electricity, gasoline, kerosene, camel dung, or a candle to make the heat. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. He is just whoring for the Edenpure company (or whatever their corporate identification is). Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. Once these last bulbs burn out, I will no longer use this over priced heater. Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. the unfortunate part is, that double-wide homes MANY TIMES (not always) have poor ductwork systems (leaky or poor quality ductwork) or inexpensive heat pump systems. The importance of this is any space heater will do that. I could not see any savings at all. With D.B. they will endorse anything for a price . I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. Those watts exactly represent the energy you will get. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. THINK ABOUT IT. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. Unh uh !! 1) If a person commenting on this site is in the HVAC business they are automatically biased against EdenPURE because it competes with their services. My heating bill was $30 month versus $90 in kersosene and the side effects it left.I had to install a heavier wire to carry the amp's but it worked when I needed a heavier heater(1000)I think oil companies will do anything to keep you hooked,my dad(81)spent $800 for a couple months,got a few heaters and saved a bundle. Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! Well, I was under the impression that maybe EdenPure discovered a way to make heat from electricity in a more efficient way than your basic $40 electric space heater. You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. bl. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. Dose the Edenpure save you money? Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. 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